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By: lumpenprole

I've seen it before; it's interesting, but like most proposals that try to fight a team tanking, I'm not sure why you would want to do that. I actually like it when teams tank, even ones I'm rooting...

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By: mannequito

Bettman looked close to a nervous breakdown on television earlier. Didn't see this one coming, but at least this lockout continues to be a lot more entertaining than 04-05.

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By: tonycpsu

I missed the farce, but I'm glad the players aren't folding. At this point, everyone should just go home for the holidays and focus on getting something done for 2013-2014. The compressed schedule...

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By: never used baby shoes

That was an unbelievable farce this evening. I think Fehr was basically lying through his teeth during his presser, trying to convince everyone that the deal was practically done, just as a means of...

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By: tonycpsu

Homeboy Trouble: "Instead of 4/9 of the games being truly meaningless, only 1 in 9 are. That's what I was getting at." I think you're significantly overestimating how much intrigue "mediocre team...

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By: Sauce Trough

And I'll be the first to say the season is too long. Amen. It's ridiculous to be playing for the Stanley Cup in June.

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By: Homeboy Trouble

Homeboy - did you check out this proposal? I have to admit, I like yours better, but something needs to be done. I've seen it before; it's interesting, but like most proposals that try to fight a team...

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By: tonycpsu

I don't know about that -- it's not like the second or third best teams are total garbage. The football numbers from klangklangston's post show about 25% odds for the best team, and 25% for the next...

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By: never used baby shoes

check out #podiumwatch for some comic relief and the occasional bit of real news. Also follow @NHLPodium for some cheap laughs. Homeboy - did you check out this proposal? I have to admit, I like yours...

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By: Homeboy Trouble

I'll cede the point that the best team probably doesn't win as often as it should. I don't know about that -- it's not like the second or third best teams are total garbage. The football numbers from...

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By: mannequito

about an hour ago they started setting up an NHL podium. check out #podiumwatch for some comic relief and the occasional bit of real news.

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By: tonycpsu

meinvt: "And I'll be the first to say the season is too long. The lock-out is frustrating, but what I'd really love is if the hockey regular season started in November and ended in March with a total...

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By: tonycpsu

klangklangston: " Long roadtrips also take a toll on the teams, and for Wings or Hawks fans, playing Eastern teams more often would both mean shorter road trips and less long coast trips. " I think...

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By: meinvt

I love hockey. I've had pro season hockey tickets. An easy choice when your option is to watch Lemieux-Jagr-Francis skate on a line together! And I'll be the first to say the season is too long. The...

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By: klangklangston

"In practice, it should. Traveling to the other coast is always going to be problematic, but with more in-division and in-conference games, you can make the long trip to the other coast a once or twice...

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By: tonycpsu

klangklangston: "I thought he meant the relative strengths of teams. And playing more in a division doesn't guarantee fewer road trips if the division is the Western one." In practice, it should....

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By: klangklangston

"Can we define balanced and unbalanced? I was taking "unbalanced" to mean "you play more in your division, so you make fewer long road trips." So in my mind, a truly balanced schedule would be round...

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By: KingEdRa

I honestly don't want them to come to an agreement, because I think it will be too skewed in favor of the ownership who have created this mess by not solving their own problems with the big team versus...

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By: tonycpsu

klangklangston: "The only gripe I have about unbalanced schedules is how jetlag obviously fucks teams from the midwest coming to the west on the regular." Can we define balanced and unbalanced? I was...

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By: klangklangston

"Regarding the level of play, that's the case in every sport that has playoffs. I don't know how you solve the problem of "players play at a higher level when the stakes are higher."" Not baseball!...

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By: klangklangston

The only gripe I have about unbalanced schedules is how jetlag obviously fucks teams from the midwest coming to the west on the regular. You can argue that the season is too long and has too many games...

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By: tonycpsu

Keith Talent: "The best outcome of this would be highlighting some of the NHL's gross deficiencies in product and forcing the league to address them due to post-lockout fan apathy. The season is too...

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By: TheWhiteSkull

This may actually be a problem for the CBC, as Hockey Night in Canada is a major ratings (and revenue) driver for them. Of course, now with TSN having some broadcasts, the pain is being spread around a...

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By: Sauce Trough

Also: if I'm wrong and the Nashville Predators become the Seattle Metropolitans, I hope that they move on from those gawdawful yellow and grey unis and adopt something fantastic and classic like this

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By: Sauce Trough

The NHL is the closest thing to an international premiere league as exists in North America, even if the owners seem hell-bent on shipping all the Canadian teams off to the southern States. I'm all for...

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By: lumpenprole

I'm amazed by how forgiving many hockey fans seem to be over all of this. It might be because I'm in Canada, As a hockey fan in the USA, this is what makes me nuts. In Canada, hockey is practically a...

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By: Harvey Jerkwater

Ridiculous but true: a small part of what makes the whole squabble so galling is that the owners' grasp for more of the pie is just so goddamned inelegant. I want my soulless plutocrats to be...

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By: KingEdRa

The NHLPA hired Fehr because they got tired of getting rolled by the owners. Fehr's strategey seems to be, "public opinion be damned, if Bettman & the the NHL want to play Chicken, let's see what...

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By: gemmy

I miss hockey desperately, and my hockey loving friends do too. But I'm kind of resigned to the lockout lasting a long while still. I'm mad, but mostly just sad that they can't get over their...

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By: Fezboy!

Generally in the tank for the players' union myself on this one just because of the egregiousness of the owners who are basically asking the players to take the hit for their inability to resist trying...

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By: yerfatma

He's running a Sabres University for team employees while the lockout is on Don't tell me these things. I've actually been casting about for another team to root for (even though my heart is black (and...

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By: rakish_yet_centered

I was hoping the SU would be videotaped and youtubed,

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By: troika

... and Terry Pegula) How did you know I was about to comment about Pegula? He's running a Sabres University for team employees while the lockout is on. The Sabres haven't had an owner who actually...

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By: rakish_yet_centered

... and Terry Pegula)

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By: klangklangston

God, I want to see Bettman get shirted. He's such a terrible, terrible, awful commish, and the owners are generally sacks of shit. (Except you, Mr. I!)

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By: srboisvert

What gives? I know that a lot of fans are mad, but they seem more mad at the absence of hockey than any of the parties involved in the dispute. I'm genuinely puzzled. Their called hockey fans which...

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By: yerfatma

Tell me about it. Last week I broke down and dug out NHL '94. It's a little blurry on HDTV. Might have been the tears.

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By: spicynuts

Excuse me, I'm sorry but the authorities have told me that the only acceptable sports story this week is who will start for The Jets on Sunday. Please focus on that. Kidding...I miss hockey desperately.

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By: never used baby shoes

If this is the breakthrough, I would love to be a fly on the wall when Bettman and Fehr are asked by their stakeholders, why it got fixed as soon as they left the room. This whole exercise appears to...

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By: ardgedee

The NHL is the closest thing to an international premiere league as exists in North America, even if the owners seem hell-bent on shipping all the Canadian teams off to the southern States. A lot of...

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By: Keith Talent

The best outcome of this would be highlighting some of the NHL's gross deficiencies in product and forcing the league to address them due to post-lockout fan apathy. The season is too long. The level...

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By: Alvy Ampersand

I'm curious to see the impact this will have on the shabbier expansions and what it would take for the league to drop Bettman and the process that would entail; I didn't realize that he was the first...

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By: Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish

Assuming there are any games to attend. The premier league of a popular sport damn sure shouldn't go bankrupt, but the NHL seems intent on cutting off its nose to spite its face.

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By: yerfatma

I would be interested to see what happens when a professional sports league fails because they couldn't settle stuff like this. Not to be a nit-picker, but failing sports leagues don't have revenues to...

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By: yerfatma

My sense is that neither of the parties are all that sympathetic in their demands Again, I'm in the tank for athletes in these disputes, but I don't think that's true. Hockey owners are nuts. They look...

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By: jeather

It is a labour/management dispute, and it is the real world, just a small group of it. And I believe that when we think that these kind of disputes are okay for rich people, we will also think that...

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By: yerfatma

I hadn't thought about it, but I think Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish has it right: it's not that I'm not missing hockey, I just am out of disappointment. I tend to back the players in CBA negotiations...

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By: incandissonance

Hockey's still around? I thought it folded and turned into the World Series of Poker in 2004.

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By: DWRoelands

My sense is that neither of the parties are all that sympathetic in their demands, so there's no ideological fight to latch onto. Both sides want a bigger share of my money? And they're already...

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By: never used baby shoes

The NHL is a bad boyfriendHockey world dazed and confused NHL's sorry game takes a downward turn

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